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What are his chances of finding another job? I'm sure if he took any more action to get them to stop or excuse him from those "meetings," it would only make his environment more hostile.

Then again, maybe he could convince them to let him give his own sermon.

Matthew 6:1-8


Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.

But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,

so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.

But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.


And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.

Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.


He could stress certain words, like "not", "hypocrites", "go into your room", "secret", and pagans, and tell them they're not going to get into Heaven if they keep praying at work in front of heathens. emoticon

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He's reported the boss to the authorities. We have worker protection agencies that deal with that sort of thing.
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I hope the authorities can and will do something about it, but I still think it will make his work environment more hostile. I really couldn't say what I would do if I was in his shoes, and I can understand why someone might back down and just go with the flow to avoid making waves, but I hope I'd be strong enough to keep fighting it no matter how hostile it got.

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Yes. It's a problem when it's the only job you can get and you're desperate because you have a family to support. I never exposed my atheism when I was working, except when it was in an atheist-friendly environment. If people wanted to have church services at Christmas and we were told to attend, I went. I wasn't about to get into arguments with people who held the power over what my kids got to eat.

Even with the law saying that you can't be forced to participate, if you don't your life can be made extremely uncomfortable.
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I believe it. emoticon I fear that if your friend manages to get those "meetings" discontinued or is able to get himself excused from them, it will only make his work environment more hostile than it already is. emoticon

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Indeed it will.
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Unfortunately, there is no good solution for that, but I hope your friend's perseverance will help other people in the future.

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That is a sad situation and a sad world that makes having to decide whether to stand up for yourself or feed your kids a decision at all. emoticon


And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.


HEY! We don't babble...most of our chants are very short indeed! emoticon A whole lot less is said, than when I had to endure Sunday Sermons! emoticon

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I don't think you babble any more than they do, but the mere comparison with Pagans should shame anyone who believes Pagans are shameful.

Hey, if I could come up with comparable verses that compare them with atheists, I would! emoticon emoticon

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I think the pagans they were referring to in that text was the Romans - not modern people.
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