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Re: FAQ: Rollover for Topic/Reply buttons


You're very welcome, Forestelves. emoticon


I think your idea in using those lines of header mark-up is to pre-load those images before a user tries to hover over / activate them with a dial up connection for the first time, without them being visible when not needed.

Ah, that's right. I forgot I gave that advice and hadn't gone back through the thread to refresh my memory on what I've posted here. Yes, those 4 lines will allow them to download before hovering on the links. emoticon


I added those bits of code to their CLS boxes but not only would the images not display but the alt text did not display, either.

This is what happens when you use display:none; which is the reason for using it in the 4 lines of "pre-load" code. The "pre-load" code causes the images to download into your computer's temp files for quick access to later, but they don't display because of the display:none;.

If you take display:none; out of the code where you do want it to display (in your CLS), I don't see any reason for it not to show up. If you give me a link to your board (and if I have access to post so I can see the posting screen), I can look at the source code of the posting screen itself and find out where your problem is. emoticon

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The CLS I have in place right now is standard but the header HTML and the CSS is in place.

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Last revised by Forestelves, 5/14/2007, 2:06 pm


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No problem, Forestelves. emoticon

Here's your problem:
.topiclistpostnewtopic a:link, .topiclistpostnewtopic a:visited{

  display:block;auto;width:125px;height:24px;
  background:url('http://url_to_new_topic.gif') center center no-repeat}

.topiclistpostnewtopic a:hover{
  display:block;auto;width:125px;height:24px;
  background:url('http://url_to_new_topic_hover.gif') center center no-repeat}

.topiclistpostnewtopic a:active{
  display:block;auto;width:125px;height:24px;
  background:url('http://url_to_new_topic_active.gif') center center no-repeat}

.postlistaddareply a:link, .postlistaddareply a:visited{
  display:block;auto;width:90px;height:24px;
  background:url('http://url_to_add_reply.gif') center center no-repeat}

.postlistaddareply a:hover{
  display:block;auto;width:90px;height:24px;
  background:url('http://url_to_add_reply_hover.gif') center center no-repeat}
 
.postlistaddareply a:active{ display:block;auto;width:90px;height:24px;background:url('http://url_to_add_reply_active.gif') center center no-repeat}


Replace those bolded parts with the urls you posted in your previous post, then changing your CLS to what you say you had should work. emoticon

BTW, it's interesting to see you using the triquetra for your background and banner. I'm used to seeing that symbol at Celtic sites, not Christian ones... then again, I rarely visit either unless I'm helping them work out their code.

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5/12/2007, 3:16 am Link to this post PM Lesigner Girl Read Blog
 
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<smile> Sorry for misleading you, no, that's not the issue. I was working on cleaning up my CSS today and that was from part of a back up copy that I'd forgotten to update with the proper URLs. I did try it (again) just to be sure but there is still the same issue, nothing there but the evidence of a link (rainbow mouseover effect).

I wondered if that mouseover might be interfering so I disabled it while I had the proper code in the CLS boxes but that also made no difference.

Our site is an Episcopalian (Anglican) site. Anglicans, being English, Welsh and Scottish traditionally, borrow heavily from our Celtic heritage. The green man I use as my avatar is from a pub sign my son carved in bas relief and painted; that character is from ancient Celtic mythology. Christianity in general borrows from earlier pagan symbols, holidays and such-like.

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Somehow I didn't notice how you had "background-image" in your original post here, but the CSS I looked at yesterday (which I posted above) correctly had "background." I don't know how you managed to switch from one to the other and then back again, but if you change "background-image" back to just "background" and put the blank gif in your CLS, it'll work. emoticon

For the record, background-image only works when you're only defining the image. When you use background-image, the browser software reading it expects everything up to the next semi-colon (;) to be part of the image itself. So, since that "image" (http://....center no-repeat) doesn't exist, the browser doesn't show anything for the background-image.

When you just use "background" without the "-image", the browser expects to find different attributes relating to the background, ie, background-color, background-image, background-position, background-repeat.

I hope this makes sense. emoticon

It's refreshing to come across a Christian who understands the religion's pagan roots, but I can't help but wonder what your actual beliefs are and how closely they follow the Bible, due to this understanding you have. It would be interesting to hear your viewpoints in some of our religions and political threads in the "It's All an Illusion" forum (and if you're not easily offended, the "No Illusions Here" forum). I want to warn you in advance though that I have no belief in deities of any kind, and I am very critical of how leaders of the various Abrahamic religions have used religion as a control device, and of those who unquestioningly echo the religious teachings and ignore factual-based arguments that go against their apparently unexamined beliefs. I speak about Christianity in particular, since I am most familiar with it, but I am most critical of anyone who strives to gain power and wealth by abusing someone else's faith. Anyway, I just wanted you to know in advance why my posts concerning religion can come off as abrasive at times.

That said, I'm particularly interested in your thoughts concerning the Ugaritic texts, since it shows a direct link to the Bible's pagan origins and probably fits in with your own beliefs.

I like your avatar, btw. Your son is very talented. emoticon

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5/13/2007, 5:37 am Link to this post PM Lesigner Girl Read Blog
 
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Lesigner Girl,

Thank you very much, that did it. If I had stopped reading at the OP to this thread, I probably would have been fine as that code is without the -image bit. There were edits in those early posts and I can't tell what had been in them initially but when I kept reading, I confused myself and added that bit when I read Panther1 was having the same isssue; I was trying to avoid it. In any case, the buttons are working as designed now. Thanks so much for the time you spent with me on this. Image

There are few things I enjoy more than good discussions, theological or otherwise. However, I have found that on the internet, sooner or later, someone forgets that the words on their screen are being typed by another person and say things in ways they wouldn't say them in face to face conversations. Those conversations are often not only non-productive but hurtful. The exception to that is the board for which these buttons were made; we all know each other in the face-to-face world and some of us meet every Saturday evening for "beer and theology" and have done so for about a year and a half.

I will answer your question in that thread, though.

Here's a simple thank you for your kind help; I made them:

Image

That one will fit in the post icon positions. This next one is a tad larger if you want it for that open spot in your Temple Smileys table and it's not too large.

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Dave

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You're very welcome for the help, Forestelves, and I'm glad you got it working. emoticon

Thanks for the icon as well. emoticon It was thoughtful of you to offer it, but I am fine with the Image icon that Runboard supplies, although I have considered redoing it to match the color of my own customized smilies, or make it white or light gray, at least.

I understand your reluctance to participate in such controversial topics with people you've never met, and I agree that people can post things without giving any real thought about the person they are responding to. I'd like to say that doesn't happen here, but there was this one literalist (some might say "fundie") who kept coming here and trying to "prove" her position with quotes from a book that many of us consider fallible (to put it lightly) or fiction (to put it more bluntly, from my perspective). When she couldn't convince us that she had knowledge of "absolute truths," she resorted to personal attacks against myself and other members of this board, and I did finally let my personal opinion of her come out after that.

Everyone has a right to their own opinions and beliefs, but I do expect people at this board to use actual evidence when they claim to have evidence, especially when they state something as fact and expect others to live according to their perceived "fact". Aside from the rare occurrence like the person described above, the regulars here respect each other's beliefs and don't claim to have ultimate knowledge of anything.

For example, although I am a self-described atheist, I acknowledge that we cannot possibly have knowledge of things which cannot be perceived, and will consider any reasonable claim as a possibility until it is proved to be false. The possibility of a god/gods in general cannot be proven nor disproven, however several claims in the Bible, if taken literally, can and have been disproven, such as the alleged 6000-year-old age of our planet and universe.

This is basically a long, drawn-out way of saying that I doubt you will have any trouble with our regulars or vice-versa if you decide to debate things here. There are spiritual non-Christians and at least one liberal Christian at this board, and while our opinions differ on a few things, we get along very well with each other. emoticon

I look forward to your opinion on the Ugaritic texts, and hope you will give us your perspective on a few other topics. Again, I understand if you choose not to, but I always love hearing different perspectives.

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