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Obama says ‘freedom of religion is under threat’ as Catholics sue administration
11:19 AM 02/06/2014


“The president is right, freedom of religion is under threat, not only in the United States but increasingly around the world,” Adam Cassandra, communications manager at Catholic organization Human Life International told The Daily Caller. “Unfortunately, the actions of the Obama administration, especially in terms of the HHS mandate dealing with contraception and abortifacient drugs, its policy on abortion, and the administration’s support for redefining marriage, have greatly contributed to the persecution of Christians, especially Catholics. The rights of religious minorities deserve protection, but the mainstream moral values of Christianity also need protection, especially from this administration, and should not be labeled as ‘intolerant,’ which only incites hatred and violence towards Christians.”


Not this “persecution” crap again. emoticon

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No, Adam Cassandra, you are not being persecuted. The reason people are intolerant of you, Adam Cassandra, is because you are a bigoted, intolerant jerk who believes he should have the right to dictate how everyone else lives their lives.

You, Adam Cassandra, are so very, utterly, wrong.

Ours is supposed to be a government by the people, for the people. It is not for some people to the exclusion of all others. It's for the people. All the people. It is not for the corporations. Despite what your buddy Mitt Romney says, corporations are not people! The constitution grants us the personal right to freedom of religion, not the right for some people to dictate how they want others to live.

What part of personal freedom do you not understand? You have every right to swing your fist, but that right ends where someone else's face begins. You are not allowed to go around punching people in the face, and you are not allowed to dictate to other people whether they can or can not do something just because it disagrees with your doctrine, the same way other people aren't allowed to dictate to you how you should live according to their doctrine. This is personal freedom.

I'm sure you don't want to live according to Sharia law. Neither do I, but I also don't want to be forced to live according to your arbitrary doctrines, either. To me, it's just more of the same, and I'll have none of it.

Freedom of religion protects you from other people's religious doctrines, the same way it protects me from your religious doctrines. If you want to try pushing your doctrines into my laws, then be prepared for others to push their doctrines into your laws, because that's exactly what would happen if we didn't have freedom of religion.

Allowing people to use birth control is not an infringement on your freedom. If someone believes being on birth control is wrong, then she has the right to choose not to use it. You do not have the right to take her freedom away from her. If she chooses to use birth control, that decision has absolutely nothing to do with you. She is not persecuting you! She is exercising her own freedoms, without infringing on yours.

Allowing a man to marry a man, or allowing a woman to marry a woman, is not an infringement on your freedom! If a priest, pastor, minister, etc., chooses not to perform the ceremony, that is his personal right to refuse, but he does not have the right to prevent someone else from doing it. See how this works? Of course you don't, because you, Adam Cassandra, are an idiot.



I repeat, personal rights do not apply to corporations. Our Constitution does not give anyone the right to use corporations to infringe upon other people's personal rights.

When are you going to ditch your stupid persecution complex? If you were allowed to have your way concerning birth control and gay rights, then you would be the one who is persecuting others.


Matthew 5:11: “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. [12] Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.


Matthew 24:9: “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.


Gay people in Uganda are persecuted and murdered by Christians.

Christians in Saudi Arabia are persecuted and murdered by Muslims.

Christians in America are not persecuted.

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Most Americans are Christians.
Most Americans disagree with you.

Do the math.

You're not being persecuted for your religion.
People aren't calling you intolerant because of your religion.

I'm calling you intolerant, because you are intolerant.
I'm calling you a bigot, because you spew bigoted views.

If you had your way, you would be a fascist dictator.
Thank goodness, you don't have that power.

You will lose your lawsuit, because you don't have a case.

You have your freedom, and you are welcome to try to take away everyone else's. Not only will you fail miserably, but more and more people will see how delusional you are, and learn not to take you seriously.

You are shooting yourself in the foot, and I welcome it.
Bring it on, you intolerant, bigoted jerk.


Even fools are thought wise if they keep silent,
and discerning if they hold their tongues.

~Proverbs 17:28


It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool,
than to speak and to remove all doubt.

~Source unknown and widely mis-attributed, but no less true.


Keep opening your mouth, Adam Cassandra, because the more you do, the more people will realize how full of sh** you are.

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Adam Cassandra, communications manager at Catholic organization Human Life International told The Daily Caller



I kind of like people like Adam. When they open their mouths, they lose more Christians every day. Some day, Christianity may become the least followed religion. Or at least many more will come to know the untaught truth about their religions base.

If I were to tell people about a religion, that killed millions in the name of the God they were to worship. That they could not follow their hearts in all matters of their lives, that their blessed leaders would abuse children and hide the fact....and that those orders to never let this abuse see the light of day came from the very top.
What do you think people would call that "Religion"? Satanism, or some such thing? Don't know....but I doubt it would be Christianity. And yet they did/do this very thing from the concept of the religion.
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Many Christians might say you're talking about Satanism and Islam, many Muslims might say Satanism and Christianity, and many Satanists might say Islam and Christianity.

Contrary to popular myth, I really don't believe there was ever an epidemic of Satanists sacrificing babies. See: Satanic ritual abuse. In contrast, religious abuse committed by Christians, Jews, and Muslims is a lot more widespread.

I'm not so sure people like Adam Cassandra will necessarily turn everyone away from Christianity, but I hope it will help turn more people away from such extremist views.

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I really don't believe there was ever an epidemic of Satanists sacrificing babies


I don't either. And Satan worship is actually a fairly "new" religion, as religions go.
And I don't mind any religion, just the fanatic ones. And those followers. So as you said, if Adam and his kind help turn more people away from such extremist views, that works for me.


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I think you're right about Satanism being relatively new. It seems to have been started by Anton LaVey in the 1960s, and as far as I can tell, he didn't even believe in Satan or any other deities.


So as you said, if Adam and his kind help turn more people away from such extremist views, that works for me.


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You and I have many friends in common who happen to be Christian, but I don't think any of them hold the kind of views Adam Cassandra does. If I'm wrong, may the FSM have mercy on my soul. emoticon


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Lucky for you....I believe you are right! emoticon


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Queenyforever said:

I kind of like people like Adam. When they open their mouths, they lose more Christians every day. Some day, Christianity may become the least followed religion.


We have a politician, leader of Christian Party (now renamed Christian Democrats to be exact). Year or two ago she was in a gay themed TV debate; next few days tens of thousands resigned church. In following weeks she appeared in various talk shows to explain what she really meant to say - every time thousands less members of church.
Which was kind of unfair as she doesn't represent church any more than I do.

On the other end, I was much annoyed by a gay celebrity who kept saying she "offends his human rights" by opposing gay marriage.


Speaking of persecuting christians, GO LIONS!!!
(Lions is the nickname of our national ice hockey team)

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Reading about that politician made me giggle. emoticon

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Speaking of persecuting christians, GO LIONS!!!
(Lions is the nickname of our national ice hockey team)



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